Elsewhere on the web I was asking questions about the loss of first publication rights upon publishing material on the web without access restraint. Specifically:
We spend alot of time discussing the fact that posting our manuscripts in whole or part will nullify our first publication rights. To that end most crit sites, this included, make sure to make crit areas protected. Here, we now have two levels of safety to protect us.
I have seen a handfull of authors that posted their currently published in hardback books on the web first. Two even continue to offer their books online.
What are we protecting?
I am not talking about the name of what we are protecting, but the value. What asset, what freedom, what monetary amount is lost by posting on the unfettered web.
Just curious.
The replies were semi-on target. While I got a little more than I was expecting in terms of describing to me how the internet works and how that relates to traditional publication, I did end up with a few anecdotal aggregates which, after sluicing, produced these nuggets:
-some unknown percentage loss
-0 dollars (recieved twice)
But I remain skeptical–at least on the 0 dollars front.
Elsewhere I read a great description of the distinction between a vanity press and true publishing. Vanity presses are purely service providers, but true publishers are business partners. That said, I think it would be foolish to assume that it is a 50:50 partnership.
I also suggest that the lame assertion that published on the web is no different than published with some other publisher and now you are hoping for re-prints is one of the tools that the publisher–read: guy with more money–uses to get the bigger half of the pie from this partnership.
We all know, author and publisher alike, that websites featuring non-hardcopy novels on the web form a spectrum of publicity not a finite definition. Some analogies may be: ‘sitting on the couch in my home’, ‘garage sale’, or ‘abandoned on a park bench’. Very few, I would guess, can equate with: ‘placed prominently in every B&N in the country’.
So, if this IS a business partnership and WE are the inventors, the builders, the makers, why do we insist on being so weak? Why do we allow our partners to walk all over us?
If our novel is interesting and it’s made it to the point where at least one other person in the world agrees, then it’s still a viable product regardless of web exposure and should be treated as such from both sides.
I rephrased the question:
What SHOULD the percentage reduction for a novel previously ‘published’ on the web be?
For the purpose of this discussion I am not talking about the ability for any third grader with a ceramic ashtray to put that quality of work up on a site. Let’s assume that we are talking about work that a publisher has expressed interest in.
Note: I am not suggesting that anyone actually put their work out on the web in an uncontrolled manner without first understanding the risks or rewards. I don’t now, but I might someday.
I am just curious about how/why this got to be such a big deal.